Pillow Talk Sessions Podcast is the go-to podcast for exploring the future of hospitality and serviced living. Co-hosted by Jessica Gillingham and Kristian Lupinski and brought to you by the team at Abode Worldwide, each episode features insightful conversations with pioneers shaping the built-to-rent, co-living, PBSA, later living, multifamily and hospitality sectors.

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Community, Affordability & Long-Term Value with Stephanie Smith (Muse)

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Oct. 22, 2025

Community, Affordability & Long-Term Value with Stephanie Smith (Muse)

In this week’s Pillow Talk Sessions , Jessica Gillingham and Kristian Lupinski sit down with Stephanie Smith, Head of Residential at Muse, to unpack how thoughtful design, data, and collaboration are shaping the next era of r...

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Oct. 8, 2025

Global Student Housing Trends with Joe Persechino (Yugo)

In this week’s Pillow Talk Sessions , Jessica Gillingham and Kristian Lupinski sit down with Joe Persechino, COO of Yugo, to unpack the global growth trajectory of student accommodation and the strategies needed to meet deman...

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Sept. 25, 2025

Driving Building Performance with Jonathan Burridge (Utopi)

In this week’s Pillow Talk Sessions , Jessica Gillingham and Kristian Lupinski sit down with Jonathan Burridge, Founder & CEO of Utopi, to explore how his company is helping operators cut costs, reduce carbon, and improve res...

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Sept. 10, 2025

The Future of Smart Stays with Dr. Josef Vollmayr (Limehome)

Send us a text In this week’s Pillow Talk Sessions, Jessica Gillingham and Kristian Lupinski sit down with Josef Vollmayr, Co-Founder & Managing Director of Limehome, to explore how the company is reshaping hospitality across Europe with efficiency, design, and digital-first operations. 💡 Highl…

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Aug. 27, 2025

From Leases to Loyalty: Reimagining Rentals with Kevin Murphy (Renew)

In this episode of Pillow Talk Sessions , Jessica Gillingham and Kristian Lupinski sit down with Kevin Murphy, Co-founder & COO of Renew, to explore how multifamily operators can turn one of their biggest weaknesses—renewals—...

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Aug. 13, 2025

Everything Is Hospitality – A Vision for Vertical Living with Philip …

In this week’s Pillow Talk Sessions , we go behind the brand with Philip Grace, CDO at Bob W, to unpack the company’s vision of hospitality-first, asset-light, and tech-forward living across Europe. 💡 Inside the episode: 🏘️ B...

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